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A New Low in Guate

By Mark

A few months back when I reported about the attorneys going around town telling people that the Wife and I had stolen our children, I was pretty upset.  It’s a small town and when you’re trying to do business and people are willing to touch on an issue that is as hot and sensitive as adoptions/stolen children, well, I was pretty hot about it.

Today brought me to the worst feelings I’ve had about this place in 15 months.  Let me give you some background; on a frequent basis the Wife or I take the kids out into the neighborhood or in the empty lot next door and they kick the soccer ball around, climb trees and basically do harmless, old-fashioned kid stuff.  One of us always accompanies them for their own safety and to make sure everyone is well-behaved.

Over the last few weeks, there have been some strange happenings.  One of the kids told me that he thought someone had thrown a rock at him.  I didn’t pay it much attention since he couldn’t actually point a finger, but the next day he had a huge bruise on his leg.  It’s hard to place blame when you’re a rough and tumble kid and you have a mysterious bruise.

Well, a few days later the Wife was sitting with the kids and got hit by another mysterious flying rock.  She looked around and wasn’t able to place where the rock had come from or who might have thrown it.

Today the Wife and kids were outside playing when the two year-old suddenly dropped to the ground and after those long seconds of silence which preface an outburst, began screaming wildly.  We wouldn’t have had any clue except that at the exact same instant the Wife was hit by a small piece of brick which presumably ricocheted off the baby or originated from the same place.

The impact left a gash and a huge knot, not bad enough for an emergency room trip but pretty severe.  I surveyed the scene with a neighbor and we quickly ruled out about 270 degrees of the field as an origin for the rock based on the wall that separates the neighborhood from the street, dense trees and our own house.  The severity of the impact on the baby’s head and the substantial bruising left by the previous projectiles pointed toward a device, unless Nolan Ryan is hiding behind a tree and throwing 90 mph rocks and broken bricks.

We found nothing, but my suspicion was immediately centered on a kid with a slingshot.  Regrettably, we didn’t find such a kid, in fact, we found nothing at all suspicious, there are only a handful of houses around that could shield an assailant and the lay of the land is such that there just aren’t that many angles that would work.  However, it was obvious to me that someone has noticed a pattern of the gringo kids playing outside in the afternoons and has decided to use them for target practice.

I shared the story with Santiago, concluding, “I can’t believe it”, to which he replied, “Dude, that’s the way it works here.  They hate you because you have money and white skin and they’ll attack the weakest, most defenseless member of your family with a slingshot and then slip back into the shadows.  Even if you caught them red handed their parents wouldn’t do anything; they probably know about it and approve.  You’re lucky they weren’t using marbles, which is their favorite weapon.”

So, I hung up the phone and counted to 10.  I don’t lose my temper easily, but neither do I take kindly to people attacking my family.  The kids on the soccer fields who responded to gringo goals by throwing rocks was bad, the licensiados lying about my family around town was pretty bad, but this stuff is deadly.  A small child hit with a brick could be fatal, and I know better than to imagine that anyone here would care if a gringo toddler was blinded, impaired or killed by a Guatemalan kid with a slingshot.

It’s not that kids around the world aren’t bad and don’t throw rocks or use BB guns, but realizing that someone has staked us out and is methodically taking shots at little kids…and who knows how many attempts there have been that have gone unnoticed?  It makes sense that if you’re armed with a slingshot or some other device that you’re going to miss more often than hit, so somebody has been working hard at this.

So, I’m kind of down on life beyond the gated community at the moment.  It’s sinking in that it doesn’t matter how safe I feel around town if the moment my baby steps outside the door he’s target practice for would-be snipers.  I know some of you readers will laugh at my concern over what is undoubtedly nothing compared to the violence some experience regularly, but when I think about how close we came today to losing a child, I get sick to my stomach and wonder what my hand in it would have been since I am the one who brought my children into this culture.

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39 Comments

1

Jesus, I'm speechless.

2

I'm so sorry to hear this. I am the one who was considering bringing my 3 kids to Guate this coming summer. In the end I decided to go to Costa Rica. Mainly because I remember my frustrations from 10 years ago as a white person traveling the country. Walking around with a huge target on my back.
This just breaks my heart. I'm glad your baby wasn't hurt worse than he was.

3

ugh this makes me so mad!
i just feel, i wish there was something i could do to help.

4

Be proactive on this one, set a trap. The person is a meathead who thinks he is not going to get caught, catch him. I'm sure you know a bad ass or two by now, put them on the job. It is like hunting deer, set up in a blind before the bait( the kids) go out to play, have them make a bunch of noise, the idiot will want to join in his own demented way and your spotters will have him. Put the fear of God in his worthless soul.

5

Oh I so like Norm's response! Nothing makes a parent madder than fear for a child. And it never changes, even after they're fully grown.

Here's another thought as to the source. Were the two kids in approximately the same area of the field when they were hit? If so, it might narrow the possibilities of source location.

Larry

6

Wow… that's nuts. I hope that everyone is okay. I will consider myself lucky that my biggest challenge so far has been an avacado incident.

I won't be complaining about the avacado anymore.

7

There are crazy people no matter where you live, that being said, I never thought it was a good idea being out of a gated community, Most new homes in Guate are gated.
I hope the family is O.K. and I hope you catch this jerk.

Mike

8

This isn't some random kid throwing rocks at your family. Could the lot your kids play in belong to someone? I am not justifying the reprobate who throw rocks at children, there just seems to be more to this. BTW, it sounds as if your kids' attacker(s) are working from a rooftop.

9

The huge target on your back was because you were a foreigner and not because you are white. Not everything is about race.

10

Thought about that Norm, I'm just worried about the risk to the bait at the moment. Losing an eye or having emergency dental surgery is a high price to pay to catch the culprit. What I'm considering at the moment is hiring one of those trucks with the loudspeakers to cruise the neighborhood saying over and over again, "I will pay 500Q to the person who tells me who in the neighborhood has a slingshot", or something to that effect.

11

Larry, they were all within the same 15' radius, so yeah, it narrows things down but not to just one house.

12

I understand your concern about your bait. This is more than dirty play on a ball field and it may be an adult who is involved-deal with this in a personal way that sends a message that your children are off limits. Do you know any of the local police? Your 500 might be better spent on some off-the-clock police work.

13

Back in the day, I used to know a general or two — an extreme solution. But certainly I'd be that mad. Of the ideas here, I'd go with speaking with neighbors and geting some police help off the clock. It'd be a pain to move, but you may have to if you can't resolve this.

14

I am very sorry to hear about what happened. Maybe this is just Antigua, I don't know. But I do have to agree with Cristina's remarks about Xela. We were there this past summer (summer in the American sense). My kids attended local schools in Xela and had a wonderful experience. All the kids in their school were very warm and welcoming and people in general made a big fuss over our kids. Their whiteness was not a liability, people were constantly saying how beautiful they were. My kids keep on asking when they can go back.

I don't want to take away from what has happened to your family. But I do want readers who are not familiar with Guatemala to know that we had a completely different experience.

15

My guess is your kids have learnt well from their parent and treat the neighborhood kids with arrogance and disdain and are only getting what they disserve. You're a fool for thinking you can treat people like their your slaves and then laugh about it on your website and not suffer the consequence. You can tell yourself its your skin color they hate but its you becase your a jerk.

16

It is sad to have this happen but you can avoid this by placing your children in private schools where they develop school friends and wont be viewed as outsiders to be disliked. I have friends in Antigua who have their children in the cities private schools and they have no problems and lots of school friends. Nothing like the same school and a uniform to make you all one group. Economic status can play a part to as you have more and others less. People may be jealous and their attitude causes their children to react this way.

17

Great idea Norm____1. Place a stake in the middle of the paddock__2. Get a string about 6 meters long and tie one end to the stake__3. Tie the other end to the 2 year old kid__4. Everybody hide and wait for the predator__5. Wait till the predator gets really close and starts actually hurting the child__6. Take action____Have I got that right Norm?

18

Gringo or not, I know that as a mother I would not hesitate to find out who had done it and give that person what he deserves, whether it´s a kid or not. You need to have the reputation of a real SOB for neighbors to leave you alone. I know this because people acuse me of killing off neighborhood cats (which I don´t do) and having a killer dog (it´s a Golden Retriever who could probably lick you to death). That´s the only way I´ve gotten people off my back.
Even if this lot belongs to someone else, there´s no harm in kids playing in it and even if the owner doesn´t like it, he should´ve spoken to you or your wife about it first. This must be some kid. Try to ask around: the neighbors probably know who it is, and might have been targets before too.
I really hope your family is okay. Just for the record, other parts of Guatemala aren´t as xenophobic; at least Quetzaltenango isn´t, that I know of.

19

Wow Mark, this is terrible. It is absolutely cowardly to target children. There seems to be something more behind this than just off-the-cuff resentment, but be it as it may, it is no excuse to target kids. I am not sure it is another kid and if it is, that kid needs to be taught a lesson. Seriously. My son used to spend some of his summers vacations here and though his Spanish is very halting and deeply-marked with an American accent, and he was taller than most of the other kids, he always had a great experience with the other kids. They were very welcoming, but this was in the capital city, perhaps Antigua is another story. Maybe you all should hire private security or else, move to another complex. That baby could have been seriously hurt! As a parent, I would have been scared and furious too.

20

Mark, I hope this NEVER happens again specially to your children, did you get the same treatment when you where in Mexico? seems you need to really have this taken care of ASAP. Please keep us all inform of any future events.

Our blessing go out to you and your family.

21

Does this mean that vacationers from Costa Rica are treated the same as vacationers from the States? When you're in a country with a different ethnic balance than you, your race is the big flag that screams foreigner. It doesn't always lead to rocks being thrown at you or being ripped off, but you're sticking out just the same.

22

Does this mean that vacationers from Costa Rica are treated the same as vacationers from the States? When you're in a country with a different ethnic balance than you, your race is the big flag that screams foreigner. It doesn't always lead to rocks being thrown at you or being ripped off, but you're sticking out just the same.

23

Exactly. Being "white" is what makes me stand out as a foreigner. Maybe other's blend in until they open their mouths, but being white leaves no room for ambiguity. As a white foreigner I had a target on my back.

24

thanks for sharing. my plans are pretty well set for costa rica now, but maybe i will consider Xela for the future. I would love to touch base with you if at all possible. It sounds like you have done what I am planning on doing.

amy . taylor 2 @ comcast.net (no spaces)

25

Kevin, nobody deserves to have their baby physically harmed. You are the jerk.

26

Buy a used cannon from the Guate Military and park it in the lot when you go out with your kids to play. Any mishaps and you fire the damn thing. They'll stop, one way or the other, guaranteed!!

27

It's very difficult to discuss race with estadunidenses. There's racism everywhere, but it is not practiced the same everywhere. You're right, race will often mark you as a foreigner in most of Guatemala; people's assumptions will kick in, until you open your mouth. Most Costa Ricans will object to your comment as they consider themselves whites. Generally, Guatemalans treat you the way you act. If you act like a tourist, you will be treated as such. Nevertheless, Costa Ricans share a language and many traditions with Guatemalans and that will make them less "foreign" to us. They will not assume that there is something wrong with Guatemalans because they're not time for an appointment, for instance; Or, they won't assume that it was done because of their "whiteness." As I see it, racism, in the US, is seen as a type of victimhood and everyone loves to wallow in it. It's not that you are treated differently because you don't speak the language, wear shorts to church, not haggle, etc,; it because "I'm white. Easy and fatuous.

28

Q&A, #6 is good, The rest need a little work.

29

Kevin – You raise some excellent points, points that would be more credible if and when you learn how to write. Examples: 1. "disserve" = deserve. 2. Learn how and when to use homonyms such as "they're/their/there." 3. "Your" is a possessive pronoun, but "you're" is a contraction.

Carry on.

"My guess is your kids have learnt well from their parent and treat the neighborhood kids with arrogance and disdain and are only getting what they disserve. You're a fool for thinking you can treat people like their your slaves and then laugh about it on your website and not suffer the consequence. You can tell yourself its your skin color they hate but its you becase your a jerk."

30

elgordo- I am a tourist. I don't look like a guatemalan. I have travelled in both Guatemala & Costa Rica. My point was that I felt like I was constantly being lied to and charged way too much everywhere I went in Guate. I don't want to take over Marks' blog, but I have many examples. I didn't feel the same way in Costa Rica.

There are lot's of differences between Guatemala & Costa Rica, and I'm sure you could give me all the reasons behind them. However, in the end I wanted to travel where I felt safest and less like a target (regardless of WHY I am a target), since I will be travelling with my 3 young children without my husband. I will go back to Guate one day, but this isn't the right trip.

"If you act like a tourist, you will be treated as such."

In other words, if you act like a tourist you will be ripped off at every turn.

I guess it's okay to say they treat tourists bad, just don't say they treat whites bad.

And I'm generalizing here. I'm sure not EVERY guatemalan gouges or misleads tourists. But MY experience was that this happened a lot.

31

:( So sorry to hear that. It's really sad that such racism exists.
Perhaps Xela is a better city to live in. I felt completely safe there.

32

So very sorry to hear this has happened to your children….I know it is upsetting in the extreme…..

33

I wouldn't travel by myself in Guatemala with three young kids, or any other country for that matter. Cui bono. I have no delusions about Guatemala, and it isn't for everyone.

34

This story is awful I am from Guiatemala and I sure do not feel happy this awful thing happened to your family. I havent been there for years so i dont know how it is down there now specially in La Antigua. Did you speak to any officer or anything like that, well I guess if you dont know who the culprit is it would be kind of useless. Boy oh boy these kind of actions really get me angry why cant people be civilized and nice.

35

Funny, elgordo, but I lived in Costa Rica BY MYSELF for a summer in high school and only felt "played" twice and unsafe once. (Two different men tried to marry me, but that was another matter entirely.) With butt-length blond hair, I doubt any Tico thought for a moment that I was latina, though I was taken for a native speaker by the end of my visit. Nevertheless, if anything, I noticed an extreme sense of overprotectiveness from Ticos. And rampant comments from men (I pretended to speak only German), of course–shouted out of cars, said in passing, called from windows, etc. I was never once pinched or groped, though, and I was cornered by a hustler once but otherwise not cheated.

OTOH, my MIL, native Chinese who lived in China until she was 30 but out of practice and supremely gullible, gets swindled outrageously every time she goes to China. Flagrant cheating and lying is standard business there, and there's no shame at tricking someone as long as you don't get caught.

It's not US arrogance making people behave this way but their own greedy and dishonest culture. Sometimes, it's racist (that is, many Guatemaltecos against US), and sometimes it's just overall scumminess (the average Chinese shopkeeper against anyone who isn't a highly respected regular, through enormous amounts of social jockeying and mutual mind games). Whatever the root, though, the economies of countries like these suck because they lack any sense of honesty or fair play, without which capitalism withers.

36

I'd catch the child and beat him.

37

Funny, elgordo, but I lived in Costa Rica BY MYSELF for a summer in high school and only felt "played" twice and unsafe once. (Two different men tried to marry me, but that was another matter entirely.) With butt-length blond hair, I doubt any Tico thought for a moment that I was latina, though I was taken for a native speaker by the end of my visit. Nevertheless, if anything, I noticed an extreme sense of overprotectiveness from Ticos. And rampant comments from men (I pretended to speak only German), of course–shouted out of cars, said in passing, called from windows, etc. I was never once pinched or groped, though, and I was cornered by a hustler once but otherwise not cheated.

OTOH, my MIL, native Chinese who lived in China until she was 30 but out of practice and supremely gullible, gets swindled outrageously every time she goes to China. Flagrant cheating and lying is standard business there, and there's no shame at tricking someone as long as you don't get caught.

It's not US arrogance making people behave this way but their own greedy and dishonest culture. Sometimes, it's racist (that is, many Guatemaltecos against US), and sometimes it's just overall scumminess (the average Chinese shopkeeper against anyone who isn't a highly respected regular, through enormous amounts of social jockeying and mutual mind games). Whatever the root, though, the economies of countries like these suck because they lack any sense of honesty or fair play, without which capitalism withers.

38

Funny, elgordo, but I lived in Costa Rica BY MYSELF for a summer in high school and only felt "played" twice and unsafe once. (Two different men tried to marry me, but that was another matter entirely.) With butt-length blond hair, I doubt any Tico thought for a moment that I was latina, though I was taken for a native speaker by the end of my visit. Nevertheless, if anything, I noticed an extreme sense of overprotectiveness from Ticos. And rampant comments from men (I pretended to speak only German), of course–shouted out of cars, said in passing, called from windows, etc. I was never once pinched or groped, though, and I was cornered by a hustler once but otherwise not cheated.

OTOH, my MIL, native Chinese who lived in China until she was 30 but out of practice and supremely gullible, gets swindled outrageously every time she goes to China. Flagrant cheating and lying is standard business there, and there's no shame at tricking someone as long as you don't get caught.

It's not US arrogance making people behave this way but their own greedy and dishonest culture. Sometimes, it's racist (that is, many Guatemaltecos against US), and sometimes it's just overall scumminess (the average Chinese shopkeeper against anyone who isn't a highly respected regular, through enormous amounts of social jockeying and mutual mind games). Whatever the root, though, the economies of countries like these suck because they lack any sense of honesty or fair play, without which capitalism withers.

39

I'm very interested in your experience in Xela. We're planning to head there for several months starting this fall. Wasn't aware that kids could participate in a local school.

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