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I had some urgent business in Mexico recently and thought some of my experiences might be illuminating for other travelers.  I didn’t want to drive myself, enjoying instead the comfort of the first class bus system in Central America.  Not only are these buses not Chicken Buses, they’re closer to first class airline seating.

Unfortunately, there are no bus stations in Antigua, so you have to get to the capital to catch one of the buses.  Tica Bus is the only one with a functioning website, but TransGalgos is a great option as well (you can buy a ticket through most travel agencies in Antigua).  I rode TicaBus from the capital to Tapachula at a cost of about $20.  The buses have TV, cold AC and a bathroom.  It’s a comfortable ride and I use it to catch up on iPod listening and book reading.

It takes about six hours to get to the border.  Once there you need to exit the bus and get your exit stamp from Guatemalan migracion.  Migracion officials use a computer network that is tied into a central database in the capital so they know quickly whether you have overstayed your visa.  The computer system also populates all the fields so there is no paperwork to complete.  If everything is good, you’ll get your exit stamp and you’re on your way.  If you’re late it’s 10Q per person per day.  I’ve never been asked for a bribe by Guatemalan migracion officials.

Once you’re done at Guate migracion, you walk north across the bridge.  The tour buses pull forward beforehand and unload all the luggage, so you can carry it through Mexican migration.  I have found the Mexican officials to be generally less hospitable than the Guatemalan side.  However, if you explain that you are only visiting Tapachula and not going further into the country and that you are only staying for three days, then you can avoid the normal hassle and ‘fees’ that average about $20 per person to enter.  In my case a simple, “Papa buenas tardes, estoy visitando a Tapachula para tres días y luego vuelvo a la tierra de los chapines” and he stamped a random page without even looking to see if it was my passport and then started hassling some Salvadorean behind me.

Then the fun begins.  Your tour bus operator will greet you outside migracion and instruct you to drag your bags through migracion.  I was stopped immediately, although I noticed all of the darker skin folk were waved through.  The grumpy senora made a cursory check of my checked bag and then waved me on.

A few meters further down the corridor another grumpy senora stopped me and instructed me to push a button on a traffic light looking device, whereupon the light flashed red, the word ‘random’ began to blink and a buzzer went off in a back office.  Two additional grumpy migracion officials exited and escorted me to a table which, while still outside, was not entirely in view of any other passengers.

Was it my stash of cigars de Havana that set off the alarms?  The book I had just checked out of the American Legion library in Antigua “Guns, Germs & Steel”?  Had the stewardess on the bus related my disappointment to the migracion officials that they served only coffee and soda and not tequila on the bus ride north?

Whatever it was I watched while they rifled through my checked bag while dozens more locals streamed past unmolested.  Apparently the randomness of the searches is limited to those exceeding 200lbs and/or 6 feet in height.  Finding nothing too objectionable (I did invite the senora to join me in Tapachula to give me a masaje, which she didn’t find amusing but the two hombres did), they waved me on, and I returned to the glorious air conditioned environment of the bus, finding the driver much relieved that he had not lost a passenger in migracion.

Thirty minutes later we were in Tapachula, where the senoritas were much more pleasant.  I asked the girls behind the counter how much a taxi should cost me to Loma Real, and when they responded “250 pesos” I asked, “Esta el gringo precio or normal?”, whereupon they both giggled and insisted it was the normal price.

250 pesos later I found myself at the Loma Real front desk where another senorita giggled constantly at my Spanish and booked me into a 1000 peso a night room which she assured me was perfect.  The pool looked inviting, the exercise room was functional if spartan, and the restaurant had a great menu.   More on Loma Real tomorrow, but a few observations on Day 1 in Mexico:

  • Tapachula is hot.  It’s Escuintla x 150%
  • Mexican Spanish is different from Guatemalan Spanish.  Simple sentences were difficult to understand or be understood.
  • I heard more honking on the way from the bus station to Loma Real than I have heard in Guate in 16 months.  Mexicans are in a hurry and watch the green light like hawks (the red light not so much).
  • Most things appeared to be cheaper in Tapachula than in Guate, from the price of food to the taxi and the alcohol.
  • I didn’t see ANY dogs

Day 2 tomorrow.

The TicaBus lobby is clean, comfortable and has a cafe with internet access.

As long-time readers know, my friends Joe and Ana operate GuateFriends hostel in the capital, just a stone’s throw from the airport.  I met them when I first visited Guatemala in 2008, while the family was still in Mexico.  I used GuateFriends as my homebase while I moved around the country getting a feel for things.

Although it is set up as a hostel, you can reserve a room to yourself for just a little more, and one very big difference between their place and most hostels is the food; Joe is an outstanding cook and will cook three meals a day if you need him to.  That’s why when I brought the family to Guatemala we stayed at the hostel for a week.

If you are planning a stayover in the capital or know someone who is, I can’t recommend them to you highly enough.  It’s an inexpensive, safe place to spend the night and enjoy a good meal.  As with everyone else in the tourist business in Guate, they are suffering from the drop in tourism, so send your friends to GuateFriends.

This is what awaits guests at GuateFriends.

This is what awaits guests at GuateFriends.

Some guy by the name of Dan posted this travelogue on his recent 1200 mile trek through Guatemala, and I thought some readers might be interested.  Yes, I’m posting the whole thing because too often I link to an outside source and then 6 months later a reader emails and says, “I went to the link but the article is gone/deleted/censored/edited and I want to finish reading”.

One of the great things about GuateLiving is I don’t delete stuff.  Well, there was that one time a female PCV blogger got outraged that I linked to her blog and demanded I delete it immediately…or else!

So anyway, if you’re thinking about driving around Guatemala, here’s an informative post:

Have just returned from a 1200 mile trip around Guatemala by good ol’ standard Chevy.
Far too much to report for just the driving alone, even for a trip report, but happy to answer questions about directions, road conditions, etc.

Our Itinerary (and general travel times)
Note: These times reflect the real-world guidelines from an experienced under-developed country driver who is cautious, but pretty aggressive.

La Aurora Airport to Antigua ½ hr to 2 ½ hr
Antigua to Pana 2 ½ – 3 ½ hrs.
Pana to Coban 5 – 6 hrs
Coban to Languin 1 ½ hr
Coban to Flores/St. Elena 4 – 5 hrs.
Flores to Rio Dulce 3 – 4 hrs.
Rio Dulce to Guate/Airport 4 – 6 hrs.

MAJOR WARNING:
If you are planning traveling west to east from Pana or Xela to Coban: Much of the road is normal Guatemala, BUT, about a ½ hour east of Cunen (on the final leg to Coban), the road turns really rough – boulders and deep pot holes, lots of rocks and gravel (good idea to make sure some other car is either ahead of you or behind you, because you’re well past nowhere in the mountains. AND THEN THE ROAD SIMPLY ENDS and you’re looking down into the abyss of a deep valley (there was a total washout more than a year ago, and it’s not clear whether this section will ever be repaired). Up to this point the driving was slow but ok since you’re dealing with flat road and modestly curving roads. NOW, you’re into the mother of all road trips. Down, down into the valley on a makeshift, narrow, rocky, dusty road, then up along the same type of road into steep hairpin turns. I can’t come close to exaggerating what this road was like or the anxiety of traveling along this stretch. I was basically in 1st gear the entire trip. Eventually the road made its way into some semblance of civilization and apparently in the right direction to Coban, which was less than an hour away.

In hindsight, the far easier (but possibly longer, and definitely not as the crow flies) ride to avoid this section would possibly be to return from Pana towards Guate, and then picking up the main north-south road to goes directly to Coban. But, the ride from Pana to Coban was easily one with some of the most varied and amazing vistas and local views of any I’ve taken. You pays your money, you takes your chances.

Some tips and observations:
First, buy a cell phone as soon as possible in the country. They’re dirt cheap (~$20), and TIGO (they’re the primary cell company) minutes were also inexpensive and almost any shopkeeper can sell you a $6 or $12 card and they can directly call into to TIGO to activate the time. Service is available everywhere, and you don’t want to be driving without some communications device.

No matter where you’re going, we found that unless you’re 150% sure that you’re going in the right direction, stop and ask (“la ruta a ________, was all that you pretty much needed in the way of language). There is a national highway system, which will encompass most of your travel, but those “RN __” markers are few and far between. Signage is pretty non-existent, although you’ll generally know what town you’re entering into (but not always). On any route, make sure you know pretty much each town along the way (remember distances are long, towns are few and most likely folks will know only the next town over).

Driving from Lake Atitlan to Pana, we found ourselves way past the turn-off, and moving close to Xela. We couldn’t imagine having missed a sign or even a road (there weren’t that many), but sure enough, there was a large, easily visble sign west-to-east, but not in the direction we were initially traveling.

Unless you have unlimited time to travel, or have unlimited patience traveling behind slow moving trucks and cars, you will need to be able to drive aggressively, meaning basically violating every safe driving rule, from speed limits to passing on curves. If you have any fear of heights or get nervous driving on roads with only modest distance between the road and steep drops, this is not a country for you to even consider driving in.

As a rule of thumb, when calculating your projected travel time, figure on 20mph for areas west of Coban (Antigua > Laked Atitlan > Xela > Coban) and 30mph on areas east (Tikal to Flores). No doubt you will start driving and find yourself going 50-60 and figure my rule of thumb is way off and you’ll pick up time. Be forewarned, driving issues are abundant, and good can turn into really rough very quickly and unexpectedly.

The road conditions, for the most part, and for most of the country, are good asphalt roads – except when they’re not. Even when the roads are good, you still can’t expect to drive at speeds much over 40. Plus, you’ll invariably encounter any one of many “conditions” that will cut into your time.

Among the most pervasive and exasperating conditions you’ll encounter: speed bumps everywhere (usually in sets of three, but as many as 7), often inexplicably placed in remote areas and mountain villages where you can’t imagine why they’re there (my guess is that some shopkeepers put them up themselves to ensure cars slow down near their tienda. Most of the time there’s some warning (“tremulos”), but not always. There are endless variations on the height and width from some being barely there to other where you’ll feel a jolt at any speed above a mile an hour.

Entering any town that’s more than a mountain village of a few shops will generally pose some modest problem and require lots of stops for directions. If you’re imagining that since you’re on a main road and simply going through town, that should be no problem – think again. Any village with “streets” will never be a simple in-out. What with one-way signs, and closed roads and markets, if often took 10 minutes to get back on the main route.

In much of the country, there’s relatively little traffic, but in some areas, particularly the roads moving east and west into Guate, you can end up behind a caravan of trucks and slow-moving cars, chicken buses, pickups with cages, three-wheelers that you’ll probably want to pass. The closer you are to Guate (either moving towards or away), the more horrific the traffic can become (grinding to a virtually halt, bumper-to-bumper). As an aside, on our arrival, we left Guate in the height of rush-hour, on our way to Antigua. A 45-minute trip took over 2 hours.

Geography also plays a key role in your travel time. Winding roads, even those well-paved, are not your leisurely ride in the country at 50 mph. They are frequently curvy, and in the best circumstances, relatively flat. But there’s plenty of up-down as well. (Prior to our travel eventually to Coban, we never encountered a straight stretch more than a kilometer or two).

The number of really nasty rides (after Coban, everything was relative), was modest. There’s an 11km stretch entering into Languin that’s tough, and the road from there to Semuc Champey is slightly shorter, but both take about ½ hour. And there will be patches of poor roads scattered around, often no more than 2-3 km.

And then, there are those silly little unexpected travel situations, like finding out that you need to take a small little car ferry across a 200-yard stretch of what was possibly a small river, on the way to Flores/St. Elena.

General Rental Car Info
Our rate with Dollar for 12 days (thru Expedia) was an amazing $210 for a solid 4-door, 5-speed, A/C Chevy. BUT, on our arrival, the rental agent insisted on contacting directly both my credit card company (to confirm my account included collision coverage) and my auto insurance agent (to ensure the policy included 3rd party liability). I actually had to go online and find out the telephone number, but since it was after hours, I had to take their policy ($160), which could be waived the next day if my agent provided documentation (it turns out my policy didn’t’).

Even though most people don’t, you should probably check the car tires to make sure the lugnuts aren’t machine screwed on (ours were, and we couldn’t get them off with the standard flat tire wrench). You should also check the spare (ours was flat, which we found out only when we had to use it). Maybe take along a container of those products that spray foam in for emergencies.

Gas is cheap (~$3.25/’US GALLON, varies by region, but not by much) and generally easily available, but it’s a good idea to keep the tank close to fill, since you never know when you’ll encounter a long, extended stretch where there are no stations for many miles.

We were advised in Guate by our rental company that police cameras were often placed on roads and used to generate speeding tickets, but nowhere in the country did we encounter cars observing posted limits (on the rare occasion when they even existed) and while there were cops occasionally parked along side the road, enforcement seemed lax.

Kara gives us an introduction to Monterrico that’s worthy of one of those shill tourist publications:

Today we headed south to Monterrico, where the ocean floor drops off very steeply after only 20- 40 feet, and the endless stretch of black volcanic beach is like moon rock that causes your feet to melt with the heat. The sun blared, the Pacific swelled and the shade was the crook in your arm as you lay your head on your towel. Raw and intense and in many ways it also reminded me of Key West and that 7-mile bridge that lifts you up above water and suddenly plops you back into small stretches of land and marsh. We lasted about an hour and then headed over to Johnny’s for cold batidos, fish tacos and ceviche and watched the ATVs speed by with four or five people sprawled over every inch of it. As the sun set we made our way back drinking a chilled coconut, driving through numerous fires from garbage being burned, car accidents, flares and finally pitch darkness where the outline of Pacaya was a reminder that we were headed inland again.

I’m looking forward to visiting Monterrico, as soon as Santiago delivers on his promise to take me to see the beachfront mansion with glass walls he’s building.

Go check out the pictures that Kara and brad took on the beach.

Apparently El Blogador isn’t worried about La Cosa Nostra:

if you must use a tour bus service to get around Guatemala and neighbouring countries, here’s one to avoid: Tierra Maya on 6a Avenida Norte (next to El Viejo Cafe).

Notwithstanding that Guatemalan operators of such services appear all too aware of the way that shuttle rhymes with cattle, I have made occasional use of them, for airport dashes in particular.

He goes on to share a story that would be worthy of a post on GuateLiving, if only a pom could debase himself to such a degree.

Then, in the last few days, El Blogador pounds one of my favorite restaurants not once, but twice, while subtly admitting he hasn’t even eaten there!  I usually wait until I’ve had a bad experience before trashing a place…but perhaps I’m not cultured enough for such discretion.

Guest Post by Marina K. Villatoro, Travel Experta

Since I started writing for Mark’s blog, I’ve failed to mention my absolute addiction and NEED for travel. While living in Costa Rica there was no village from the Nicaraguan border to the Panamanian border that we didn’t visit. Plus, we indulged ourselves in trying to keep up with the local festivities as well.  Like the different parades, festivals and other stuff that after a few years became mundane as we realized it was all the same only the faces changed from town to town.  Although I recommend it for everyone who is visiting Costa Rica to experience a local event!

Now it’s Guatemala’s turn! Since I met my husband here eight years ago I traveled the entire country. But, that was eight years ago, I was a backpacker. What that means is that I traveled with other backpackers whose main goal was to spend AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE. And trust me, I will never recommend the $1.50 hotel finds we used to stay at. I’ve stayed in places that I was too scared to take off my jeans and sweaters because the beds hadn’t been changed since 1960’s, or there were more ants in the bed with me than you’d find in an ant farm or taking a shower was less hygienic than being dirty for one full week.  Needless to say, we are exploring Guatemala in a whole new light and I’m loving it! I will start posting more about my adventures in this country!

For now, I am hoping to get an exact answer, since no one seems to know specifically and I can’t find anything on the web as well. I keep hearing about this awesome Caravan de Zorros. A caravan of motorcycles that leave from Guatemala City and head to Esquipulas. It’s supposed to be a pretty amazing experience since there are over one thousand of all sorts of motorcycles that head out together.

Naturally we want to go! But for the life of me I can’t figure out the exact date and the location of it. Plus, I would so love to hear a first hand experience if anyone has had one!

Bio

Marina has been living in Central America for over 7 years and her site Travel Experta is all about traveling in Central America. Marina loves to help people plan the perfect vacation to this amazing part of the world! You can sign up for her RSS feed and join the fun on her facebook fan page and follow her on Twitter at @MarinaVillatoro.

El Blogador has been delighting readers with his travel blogging from Playa del Carmen and other locations in Mexico.

Between Lattes and fine dining he managed to get in a little slap at yours truly for making such a big deal of the Chavez puppet who now resides at the Brazilian embassy.

These eedjits made their move against Zelaya when the grand total of his ‘treason’ against the Hounduran constitution was a no-car zone in Tegucigalpa and a non-binding consultation about a possible two-term presidency…which would have reached its conclusions AFTER an election he would no longer be eligible to stand in under the existing rules.

What’s that old Churchill saying about feeding the alligator?  Of course, IMHO Hitler wasn’t the true enemy anyway, if we had just followed Patton’s advice (defeat the Soviets while we were already in Europe), we could have saved about 60,000,000 lives and a few trillion dollars.  But that’s another story altogether.

Michelleti et al need only to have looked to Havana and Caracas to see the future that awaited them if they embraced the false comfort of appeasement towards would-be tyrants.  When a man has a gun pointed at your head you don’t need to wait for him to shoot to understand his intentions.

What do you think?  Should the Hondurans follow the advice of El Blogador and his mate Neville, or is Churchill a better role model?  (Don’t worry James, I haven’t forgotten your request!)

Although I’ve known Kara by email and phone for months, and Brad has occasionally commented, I didn’t know until today that they had a blog chronicling their GuateAdventure called ‘New Maya‘.  At the moment they’re in Mexico and are making their way to Antigua.

Brad is a graphic designer and speaks ebonics fluently.  Kara is a journalist and online community organizer, which I guess is just a short step away from being a offline community organizer.  Hey, maybe she’s got a future in the US Senate.  What distinguishes Kara from the US President is she won a Fulbright Scholarship and is putting that to work here in Guate.

The Fulbright Scholarship is named for Senator Fulbright, who represented Arkansas in the US Senate for 30 years.  He sponsored the international exchange program that now bears his name, and he was an early mentor to Bill Clinton.  He lost his final election due to what some Wikipedia author has absurdly called the ‘far right wing’ of the Democrat party.  That’s another way of saying that the non-communists in the Arkansas Democratic Party (at that time a majority), got tired of his opposition to US Cold War policy.  He was one of those guys that co-sponsored the Gulf of Tonkin resolution but really opposed it.  Remind you of anyone?

Anyway, Kara is working on an interesting project called HablaGuate.  Stop by New Maya to follow their travel adventure by car from California to Guate!

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